So, is a similar system now available to non J & B yachts??
DrD0000M
Yeah sure and “real” sailors don’t use engines either. Stupid Luddites!
J T W
You need a system like the rotating sail drive on this because it has two rudders, neither of which are inline with the prop.
paulme33
only the best inavations from the best french yaching company.
ARGOYACHTS
ΦΤΙΑΧΝΟΥΝ ΣΥΣΤΗΜΑΤΑ ΓΙΑ ΒΟΥΤΥΡΟΜΠΕΜΠΕΔΕΣ !
ARGOYACHTS
STUPID SYSTEMS…FOR THE REAL SAILORS ITS NOT IMPORTAND…THIS SYSTEMS IS FOR STUPID SAILORS !
YachtingMonthly
Assuming the engine is running and you loose your battery power, the boat can still be manoeuvred the same way it would be without using the system, the sail drive faces aft. If your engine isn’t running and you loose your battery power you, like anyone else don’t have an engine (unless you can hand start it, a rarity nowadays). The joysick makes it easier, but it’s not a replacement for skill, well no more than a chart plotter is for navigation.
YachtingMonthly
The Jeanneau and the Beneteau are running the same system just with different names as they are the same parent company. The only reason why this system kept stalling was because it had been run all day. Not as it would have been used in a real life scenario of manoeuvring, motoring, sailing, motoring and finally manoeuvring into it’s berth. This boat had been manoeuvring for 6 or so hours and the bow thruster been using up the battery power.
Leggo My Ego
Also, is this an option on the 57?
Leggo My Ego
Have these guys tested the beneteau sense 50 in the same manner and does their alternator fail to charge the batteries enough so you end up with a system failure like the Jeanneau’s 360 failure?
coochsailor
Exactly as @weissbier2 said – and since that’s the case and for whatever other reason that you may lose all your battery power (which I’m assuming possibly drives the direction of the saildrive while using the joystick?) If that’s so then you’re scewed if you lose your batteries… There’s something to be said for skippers who know how to really handle a boat even in tight situations such as in the video, in comparison to joystick “sailors” who have to always rely on technology that may fail..
YachtingMonthly
Because while the system is in use you don’t have control of the engine throttle. So the engine can’t be run at a high enough revs for the alternator to work efficiently. The bow thruster will take more power out of the batteries than the engine can put in them at the same times
The test boat had been run like this all day, so the batteries didn’t get a chance to get a full charge.
weissbier2
How can you drain the batteries if the motor is running and chatging the batteries?
Cree Kree
No excuses anymore saying that there’s no space to part any closer unless I have 2 boat size space to sail in!!!!
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So, is a similar system now available to non J & B yachts??
Yeah sure and “real” sailors don’t use engines either. Stupid Luddites!
You need a system like the rotating sail drive on this because it has two rudders, neither of which are inline with the prop.
only the best inavations from the best french yaching company.
ΦΤΙΑΧΝΟΥΝ ΣΥΣΤΗΜΑΤΑ ΓΙΑ ΒΟΥΤΥΡΟΜΠΕΜΠΕΔΕΣ !
STUPID SYSTEMS…FOR THE REAL SAILORS ITS NOT IMPORTAND…THIS SYSTEMS IS FOR STUPID SAILORS !
Assuming the engine is running and you loose your battery power, the boat can still be manoeuvred the same way it would be without using the system, the sail drive faces aft. If your engine isn’t running and you loose your battery power you, like anyone else don’t have an engine (unless you can hand start it, a rarity nowadays). The joysick makes it easier, but it’s not a replacement for skill, well no more than a chart plotter is for navigation.
The Jeanneau and the Beneteau are running the same system just with different names as they are the same parent company. The only reason why this system kept stalling was because it had been run all day. Not as it would have been used in a real life scenario of manoeuvring, motoring, sailing, motoring and finally manoeuvring into it’s berth. This boat had been manoeuvring for 6 or so hours and the bow thruster been using up the battery power.
Also, is this an option on the 57?
Have these guys tested the beneteau sense 50 in the same manner and does their alternator fail to charge the batteries enough so you end up with a system failure like the Jeanneau’s 360 failure?
Exactly as @weissbier2 said – and since that’s the case and for whatever other reason that you may lose all your battery power (which I’m assuming possibly drives the direction of the saildrive while using the joystick?) If that’s so then you’re scewed if you lose your batteries… There’s something to be said for skippers who know how to really handle a boat even in tight situations such as in the video, in comparison to joystick “sailors” who have to always rely on technology that may fail..
Because while the system is in use you don’t have control of the engine throttle. So the engine can’t be run at a high enough revs for the alternator to work efficiently. The bow thruster will take more power out of the batteries than the engine can put in them at the same times
The test boat had been run like this all day, so the batteries didn’t get a chance to get a full charge.
How can you drain the batteries if the motor is running and chatging the batteries?
No excuses anymore saying that there’s no space to part any closer unless I have 2 boat size space to sail in!!!!
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